Opt out for JagPC marketing mail

[gohighvoltage]

That is really odd Bell, I only received 1 copy.

[Ron]

I just checked my gmail account and I also have a second copy. Doesn't bother me.

I went into the client area to see where my email addresses are stored, and where one was stored vs the other one. I couldn't find either.

[Ron]

PS I gotta say the newsletter looks one %^&^%$ of a lot more professional than it used to.

[JPC-Greg]

Yes , it does.

[Gwaihir]

I'm also back down from six to four copies again. Indeed, they do look better, although the "good morning" is off, but I can't take it as a good sign that the first revamp isn't to stop spamming. This is illegal guys, doesn't that bother you a tidbit more than looks?

[gohighvoltage]

Maybe since this is such an issue, that Jag can just make the Newsletter Downloadable through the website or forum. This way, people who want it can get it, and if they don't, they don't.

??

[Ron]

PS I gotta say the newsletter looks one %^&^%$ of a lot more professional than it used to.

Sadly, Windows Live Mail thinks the newsletter is SPAM and delivered the two copies to the "Junk e-mail" folder associated with each account.

On one account from GMail, Google is soft failing SPF, calling it neutral.

Delivered-To: xxxxxx @ gmail.com
Received: by 10.223.77.78 with SMTP id f14cs258375fak;
        Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:17:14 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.236.181.168 with SMTP id l28mr37415256yhm.53.1328041033823;
        Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:17:13 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <sales@jaguarpc.com>
Received: from cluster.nocdirect.com (cluster.nocdirect.com. [69.73.138.88])
        by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f32si914153ann.54.2012.01.31.12.17.13
        (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
        Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:17:13 -0800 (PST)
Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.73.138.88 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of sales@jaguarpc.com) client-ip=69.73.138.88;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.73.138.88 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of sales@jaguarpc.com) smtp.mail=sales@jaguarpc.com
Received: (qmail 11855 invoked by uid 48); 31 Jan 2012 15:17:12 -0500

Perhaps Windows live also checks SPF, who knows.

I'm guessing you ought to have a very valid SPF record for your mass mailing server.

On the other account that is hosted at JPC, Spam Assassin Scores the email 3.8 - 1.0 for all trusted handovers. Bayes scores the email with 40-60% probability of being SPAM.

	Content analysis details:   (2.8 points, 5.0 required)
	pts rule name              description
	---- ---------------------- --------------------------------------------------
	-1.0 ALL_TRUSTED            Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP
	0.0 HTML_MESSAGE           BODY: HTML included in message
	0.8 BAYES_50               BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60%
	[score: 0.5000]
	0.7 MIME_HTML_ONLY         BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts
	0.4 HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG  HTML-only message, but there is no HTML tag
	1.9 MISSING_MIMEOLE        Message has X-MSMail-Priority, but no X-MimeOLE
	0.0 AWL                    AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list

You should address those concerns and perhaps send a test email to one of your own servers to see what Spam Assassin thinks before sending them out en masse. Unfortunately I can't tell what Bayes sees as an issue, perhaps a return address of "sales@" is a trigger, perhaps fixing the things that SA is worried about might help fix both Bayes and Microsoft Live Mail.

I know I can authorize you as a safe sender, but that's not what you want; you want your emails not to be screened out by the SPAM proggies of people who haven't whitelisted ya.

IMnsHO

[Bell thorpe]

Hi Bell thorpe. I was expecting to hear from you but at some level I was hoping that you would not again be receiving multiple copies. I keep thinking that you might be on the mailing list for multiple groups. But, you have said that isn't the case when you have received multiple copies in the past. I apologize for the redundancy again (four times over), and as we have discussed before JaguarPC is aware of the issue and believe it or not we really are moving forward with that system to correct the problem. Thanks for the insight.

Hi Sabrina. I'm pleased to hear that JPC is 'moving forward'. That is always heartening news.

You'll be pleased that today I again received two copies of the latest newsletter. To each of my registered email addresses. That's four copies.

Thank you, I've read each of them clearly.

I look forward to your response, no doubt to tell me again that you're moving forward.

[JPC-Sabrina]

Thanks for letting me know Bell thorpe. As you may already know our new JaguarPC Portal has entered the beta testing period. Once it is deployed you should begin to receive only one newsletter per mail out. So sorry again about the redundancy.